# Update binarys

**URL:** <https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876>\
**Category:** General Support / Questions\
**Created:** [November 22, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876 "2022-11-22T17:44:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/1 "2022-11-22T17:44:37Z")

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It might be about time to update ffmpeg and handbrake with the release of the 40 series gpus. Also, just to keep with the times, it might be nice to enable hardware encoding for av1. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/2 "2022-11-27T23:58:51Z")

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hello

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/3 "2022-12-04T19:12:36Z")

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Goose, are you there?

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/4 "2022-12-11T18:43:29Z")

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Goose, Have I offended you?

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/5 "2022-12-18T19:52:46Z")

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hello

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 7:29am UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/6 "2022-12-19T07:29:23Z")

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Not at all. We’re looking into it. It’s take us weeks → months to update as there are literally 10,000’s tests to run and fix issues if the crop up with newer builds before we can verify it. A single test cycle takes up to 2 weeks running 24x7 to complete across a cluster of machines.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/7 "2022-12-19T15:46:39Z")

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Sounds good. Let me know once it is done. thanks.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/8 "2023-01-04T14:28:06Z")

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just checking up on this. thanks.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/9 "2023-01-08T17:25:11Z")

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hello

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/10 "2023-01-12T20:56:52Z")

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It’s not looking great so far, the newer ffmpeg builds using the new OneVPL QSV framework are either failing or slower at hardware encoding. Once we’re done investigating / optimizing this then we will be looking at NvEnc and then AMF. So this is going to take time but I don’t see any specific advantage to upgrading ffmpeg in it’s current build.

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/11 "2023-01-12T21:07:26Z")

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Just as a reference the 5.1.2 release of ffmpeg (using Media SDK) is 25% slower using QuickSync than the build included with the latest version of MCEBuddy, where as the latest overnight builds (using OneVPL) fails to even use the hardware qsv encoder.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/12 "2023-01-13T20:04:43Z")

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I understand. thanks. maybe give them some time to straighten out their code. Also, I think microsoft has their own universal hardware encoder so try h264\_mf and hevc\_mf

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/13 "2023-01-13T22:15:54Z")

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Yes we’ve been experimenting with those. Oddly ffmpeg says they aren’t officially supported but we are seeing some interesting results

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/14 "2023-01-14T00:18:19Z")

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interesting good or bad?

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/15 "2023-01-21T21:21:26Z")

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Still testing, it doesn’t appear to be using the hardware engine

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**Author:** ![mike808](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mike808](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/mike808)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/16 "2023-01-21T21:33:36Z")

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Handbrake just released their version 1.6.0. There are some notes about QSV and NVENC engines, so there might be something relevant there to cross-reference.

I’m dropping Handbrake 1.6.0 CLI into MCEBuddy right now. No problems with doing that with 1.5.1. There is a caveat that they’ve moved completely to the v6 .NET desktop runtime. Microsoft EOL’d and EOVS’d v5. They’re also phasing out VP8 support. Not sure if that affects anyone still using Media Center.

I’ll post if there are issues. I only have a 2060 for HW, though. With a 4th gen i5 (Haswell?).

HandBrake 1.6.0 changes of note:

- Added AV1 video encoding
- Added high bit depth and color depth support to various encoders and filters
- Added 4K AV1 General, QSV (Hardware), and MKV (Matroska) presets
- Added 4K HEVC General presets and updated related presets to use similar encoder settings
- Removed VP8 presets
  - The VP8 video encoder is now deprecated and will be removed in a future release
  - Related, the Theora encoder is long deprecated and will be removed in a future release

Video

- Added SVT-AV1 (software, v1.4.1) and Intel QSV AV1 (hardware) video encoders
- Added encoders: VP9 10-bit, NVENC HEVC 10-bit, VCN HEVC 10-bit
- Added H.264 levels 6, 6.1, and 6.2 for the x264 encoder
- Added H.264/H.265 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 profiles for the x264 and x265 encoders
- Added H.265 4:2:2 profile for VideoToolbox encoder on Apple Silicon
- Added support for Intel Deep Link Hyper Encode (leverage multiple QSV media engines to increase performance)
- Fixed longstanding issue where slowest NVENC encoder preset caused encoding failures
- Removed support for Intel CPUs older than 6th generation (Skylake) when using Intel Quick Sync

Updated Third-party libraries

- AMF 1.4.24 (AMD VCN encoding)
- FFmpeg 5.1.2 (decoding and filters)
- Subtitles: FreeType 2.12.1, Fribidi 1.0.12, HarfBuzz 4.4.1, libass 0.16.0
- liblzma (xz) 5.2.6 (LZMA video decoding, e.g. TIFF)
- libvpx 1.12.0 (VP8/VP9 video encoding)
- oneVPL 2023.1.0 (Intel QSV encoding/decoding)
- x264 164 r3100 (H.264/AVC video encoding)
- x265 r12747 (H.265/HEVC video encoding)
- zimg 3.0.4 (color conversion)

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/17 "2023-03-07T23:59:13Z")

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It has been a few months. Maybe there has been a change?

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**Author:** ![Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Goose](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/18 "2023-03-08T16:13:04Z")

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The newer ffmpeg builds are slower at hardware encoding. In our distro we use specific builds for specific hardware encoders. Can’t endorse a single build for all hardware but feel free to experiment on your end and share your results.

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**Author:** ![techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@techpro2004](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/techpro2004)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/19 "2023-03-09T00:28:15Z")

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To be honest with you, I am looking for av1 support. Would really appreciate an official mcebuddy profile and encoder. Maybe set it up so mcebuddy only uses the new build for av1.

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**Author:** ![mike808](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@mike808](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/u/mike808)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://discussion.mcebuddy2x.com/t/update-binarys/4876/20 "2023-03-09T01:34:25Z")

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You could try dropping in the new Handbrake and using a profile with Handbrake for encoding and custom options for AV1.

The notes for Handbrake indicate that the FFMPEG baked into Handbrake is only used for decoding. That’s different than MCEBuddy using FFMPEG or Handbrake at the top-level.

At worst, it might be slower, like Goose indicated, but at least you’ll get AV1 encoding.

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